Joining the Shaolin, promotions and me
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:40 am
Hi,
I've debated for nearly a month whether or not I want to post my thoughts on this and, in advance, I warn you, that this is merely my OOC view of things and should be taken generally with a grain of salt. Glor has his own reasons how he treats applicants and are not really part of this post.
- For the last 12 or so applicants I had, 95% did never put through the strength to hold through a single month. If my char doesn't even know you, how can you expect him to put you onto the line of something that is a lifelong decision of a path, on that also leads you away from soceity and will change your daily life? Overdrawn, it felt like the char was created, played till they ran into me, then being expected to be led in on the simple fact that they had some witty things to say. It doesn't work that way, at least not with me. An occoupational guild is a very serious choice, it will affect who you are, whom you are friends and enemy with and the guild usually will devote a huge portion of their time to get you up to speed and help you along the first year, till you can work your path mostly on your own. I would even go as far as saying that you should not make a char who you plan to have to be part of a certain guild. Make the and see where life drifts you to. If somebody would've said that glor would eventually be shaolin, I would've called them crazy.
- On promotions, it's a rather similar thing. If my char never sees you acomplish or do anything, not even sees you saying hello on the line if you hop in, how do you expect to earn yourself a promotion. I don't think anybody can claim that my promotion tests were particularly hard and so far I've not had more then one or two failures, but for those to be offered to you, I want to see a certain kind of activity. Hopping in once every half year because you have grinded the skills neccesary and just need the promotion test... will not get you a promotion, sorry.
- A guild is much more then an easy way to get a set of unique skills and for those who ever have met my char or tried to join the Shaos, certainly noticed that nothing I ever put forth has anything to do with martial arts at all. They are something that allow a Shaolin to function, not the main cause of their existance.
- I have not been the most active player in the last year. I sure was around, but people from different timezones might have had trouble getting in touch with the guild since Yngwe stopped playing, who usually cought those who would not play during my hours. Same goes for those students who did not manage to catch me to get a promotion. For you, I'm sorry and if you really feel this has been in your problem, feel free to drop me a message here on the forums to work out when you would have a chance to catch me (though my playing is rather spontaneous there might be something to work out). Which should not mean you get to join / a promotion then, it doesn't work that way, but I know the frustration of never even getting ahold of your superiors and having the chance
to argue your case.
Why did I write that? Well, honestly, mostly out of frustration. Seeing people walk away when you actively put in thought and energy to make that guild an experience for them is very annoying. Seeing people join a cleric guild after you let them intentionally dangle in the air for a single week is equally frustrating, seeing that people are not willing to invest a bit of time, you get the feeling, that not being in a guild equals being nothing, which is not true at all. Played guildless myself for two years and it certainly had it's own fun.
As said, please take your flames elsewhere and take it constructive if you want to add something to this / discuss this with me. I'm still not entirely sure if it belongs up here, but a part of me thinks I needed to say that.
I've debated for nearly a month whether or not I want to post my thoughts on this and, in advance, I warn you, that this is merely my OOC view of things and should be taken generally with a grain of salt. Glor has his own reasons how he treats applicants and are not really part of this post.
- For the last 12 or so applicants I had, 95% did never put through the strength to hold through a single month. If my char doesn't even know you, how can you expect him to put you onto the line of something that is a lifelong decision of a path, on that also leads you away from soceity and will change your daily life? Overdrawn, it felt like the char was created, played till they ran into me, then being expected to be led in on the simple fact that they had some witty things to say. It doesn't work that way, at least not with me. An occoupational guild is a very serious choice, it will affect who you are, whom you are friends and enemy with and the guild usually will devote a huge portion of their time to get you up to speed and help you along the first year, till you can work your path mostly on your own. I would even go as far as saying that you should not make a char who you plan to have to be part of a certain guild. Make the and see where life drifts you to. If somebody would've said that glor would eventually be shaolin, I would've called them crazy.
- On promotions, it's a rather similar thing. If my char never sees you acomplish or do anything, not even sees you saying hello on the line if you hop in, how do you expect to earn yourself a promotion. I don't think anybody can claim that my promotion tests were particularly hard and so far I've not had more then one or two failures, but for those to be offered to you, I want to see a certain kind of activity. Hopping in once every half year because you have grinded the skills neccesary and just need the promotion test... will not get you a promotion, sorry.
- A guild is much more then an easy way to get a set of unique skills and for those who ever have met my char or tried to join the Shaos, certainly noticed that nothing I ever put forth has anything to do with martial arts at all. They are something that allow a Shaolin to function, not the main cause of their existance.
- I have not been the most active player in the last year. I sure was around, but people from different timezones might have had trouble getting in touch with the guild since Yngwe stopped playing, who usually cought those who would not play during my hours. Same goes for those students who did not manage to catch me to get a promotion. For you, I'm sorry and if you really feel this has been in your problem, feel free to drop me a message here on the forums to work out when you would have a chance to catch me (though my playing is rather spontaneous there might be something to work out). Which should not mean you get to join / a promotion then, it doesn't work that way, but I know the frustration of never even getting ahold of your superiors and having the chance
to argue your case.
Why did I write that? Well, honestly, mostly out of frustration. Seeing people walk away when you actively put in thought and energy to make that guild an experience for them is very annoying. Seeing people join a cleric guild after you let them intentionally dangle in the air for a single week is equally frustrating, seeing that people are not willing to invest a bit of time, you get the feeling, that not being in a guild equals being nothing, which is not true at all. Played guildless myself for two years and it certainly had it's own fun.
As said, please take your flames elsewhere and take it constructive if you want to add something to this / discuss this with me. I'm still not entirely sure if it belongs up here, but a part of me thinks I needed to say that.