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An easy method of adjusting the skill would be to simply reduce the recovery speed for non-shaolin.

NO! Let's not make skills harder to learn please? I don't see meditate/recovering being a problem of playability for anyone except newbie characters in which it takes even longer to rest up meditating. keep meditate as is.

Yes, it's boring if you're sitting around, having nothing to do while everyone else is meditating.
Just as in real life ...

True, and this is a game, not RL. Playability= more playerbase so meditation should be kept as is because there are no problems with it.

I have to agree with Delmon...as a player who has spent far more time out of guilds than in them since about 2003, I remember very vividly the sweeping changes of the skill system which allowed non-guild characters to learn skills at a fair rate depending instead on specialization. I think it increased the playability and general enjoyment of the game immensely, and I would hate to see regression in the form of arbitrary penalties.

Shaolin, in general, do still tend to pick up meditation faster because they train other shaolin skills and have access to battlescream. I don't think that they're cheated, I just think that there needs to be a little bit more reverence for the awesome technique they developed. Everyone go hug a Shao, they reduce your downtime.

I suggest leave meditate exactly as it is. It is not hurting anyone.

It is also not helping one group more than anyone else, and that group is the Shao-Lin.....a group that should benefit more from it.

Other people that are not Shao-Lin have Shao-Lin martial arts due to various reasons.

Why not having the meditation skill give a boost to the martial arts skills of the Shao-Lin only?

The way this works has nothing to do with me though, I just threw the idea out there. If you like it, have fun with it Delia. If not, that is fine, you are too tough for a female elf anyways. You are supposed to be frail and weak.

If not, that is fine, you are too tough for a female elf anyways. You are supposed to be frail and weak.

Bah, ok she's tough against certain things but most things come how you play them. She still dies very much like the wimpy female elf you want her to be, if you can catch her flat-footed that is and you really need only one miracle to drive her off...after that its stay and die.

But yes, there are no real problems with meditation except the ones in our minds currently. It makes the game more enjoyable and there are shao only perks based on meditation...they just are quite hard to get which makes them RARE amongst shaos and that was from the days when there were quite many shao masters around.

Arogarn wrote:Oh, what? Boring?
Yes, it's boring if you're sitting around, having nothing to do while everyone else is meditating.
Just as in real life ...

IRL I find it ironic when people say they got nothing to do and they still refuse to meditate with me.

Make meditation heal only mental and fatigue at low skill levels, hp for higher?
Would make sleep an option sometimes.

In my opinion, fatigue is worth more than hp for regeneration speed, so if meditate were to be modified to regenerate more fatigue and mana than hp at low levels, I certainly wouldn't mind. Almost all of the newbie characters I have played got exhausted after hardly any effort, and it becomes near unfun to play when you have to take coffee breaks all the time. Knowing that eventually meditate will get better and give huge returns for the effort is the only thing that pushes you past those first few weeks or months of slow meditation.

It's pretty balanced right now, I think. It's frustrating enough to require perseverance in training while still not being so annoying it causes players to quit, and it's not so strong even at the highest levels that it negates the point of trying to pursue a target.

If Delia says that the Shaolin perks are there and are sufficient, I should think that it is fine.

I'm fairly certain that until around 30 meditate (which can take a while with a new character unless you play all the time) rest is a better option for recovering hp/mana/fatigue. And even then it's iffy.

And yes, the Shaolin do have access to cool stuff based on meditate, so what's the big deal?

this may be OOC but I thought
40 meditate -rest
80 meditate -sleep
100 meditate -godly

isengoo wrote:And yes, the Shaolin do have access to cool stuff based on meditate, so what's the big deal?

I think it would be better to say there's like maybe 2 masters that have cool stuff based on meditate. :P

tessa wrote:

isengoo wrote:And yes, the Shaolin do have access to cool stuff based on meditate, so what's the big deal?

I think it would be better to say there's like maybe 2 masters that have cool stuff based on meditate.

Yes, but it's still available. The rest of them are just lazy

There's a lot more that keeps people from it than whether they're lazy or not.

theres tons of ex shaolin that if they stayed with the guild would be just as good as delia right now. and lets be honest. the sathonys don't need more than one delia out there right now.

*ponders the effect of Luminier Shao-Lin*

There's a lot more that keeps people from it than whether they're lazy or not.

That is the point. If I related the time it took for Delia to get the good stuff I think it could be a major put off for most people.

theres tons of ex shaolin that if they stayed with the guild would be just as good as delia right now. and lets be honest. the sathonys don't need more than one delia out there right now.

Way better than Delia, infact and what are you just implying there? Delia can't turn coat and join the bad guys? Darn, why do we keep those cool black robes for in the temple then?

I was a always a black linen man. All that silk is for pansies or panties.

Yeah we dont need any more delias
*shudders at the thought of her elven fists, and runs*

No, it is the undead that have to dodge her fists. Living things can just wrap some leather around them and be quite safe and yes, unfortunately Ganon still counts as a living thing, great emphasis on the 'thing' part though.

No ganon hates your fists they make body parts spontaneously fall off

I sense a wondrous future as a Gwenite here...

Tessa will be a Delia II, just give her some time.

I sense a wondrous future as a Gwenite here...

I will gladly show you the light.

*levels up to Overlord poster*

*levels up to Overlord poster*

It is Overlady, mind you!